Q&A Between Iain Parker and Bill English & the RBNZ
This is well worth documenting.
From: http://www.interest.co.nz/ratesblog/index.php/2010/02/28/terralink-repor...
# Iain Parker Says:
February 28th, 2010 at 9:14 pmAfter reading the above, then read a recent reply to questions I put to Finance Minister Bill English, those poor bastards that have just been foreclosed upon might want to pay special attention to question No 9 re mortgages being created as debt book entry as part of the underwriting processes of modern banking, your in a whole lot of pain for something they created with a few strokes on a keyboard.
Then read the answers to the same questions put a little earlier to RBNZ, remembering it is inferred that the control and the buck re monetary policy stops with them?
Office of Hon Bill English
Deputy Prime Minister Minister of Finance
Minister for Infrastructure
1 8 JAN 2010
lain Parker
372 Brookes RD Stratford
TARANAKI 4700
Dear lain Parker
Thank you for your Official Information Act request, received on 27 November 2009. You asked a”number of questions about the nature of government bonds; as well as about the nature of money and the banking system.
1. Could you please tell me what a Government Bond is and what role it plays in our economy?As you point out on page 7 of your submission, New Zealand government bonds are wholesale, New Zealand dollar denominated, fixed-term debt securities. They are secured by a charge upon and are payable out of the revenues of the Crown.
Cash received by government bond issuance is used to fund goods and services provided by the government, e.g. roading, hospitals and welfare payments. Government bond yields provide an indication of the “risk free” rate of return in an economy and provide companies and households a benchmark with which to compare returns against those of alternative investments.2. Could you please tell me who in the world of high finance, as Primary Bond Dealers, has the right to buy or monetise government debt bonds before they decide if they do or don’t on sell them on the secondary bond market?
New Zealand does not have “Primary Bond Dealers.” The term “Primary Bond Dealers” refers to institutions that, for example, trade directly with the United States Federal Reserve, where they are required to participate when the Federal Reserve holds securities auctions. In New Zealand, the nearest equivalent institutions are called registered tender counterparties. The main difference between the US and New Zealand is that registered counterparties are eligible but not required to participate in government securities tenders.
To qualify for registration as a tender counterparty, an institution must have a minimum credit rating of A-/A3, or have their obligations guaranteed by a parent entity with a minimum credit rating of A-/A3, or be a Crown financial institution.
Tender counterparties are primarily either New Zealand or Australian incorporated banks.3. Are the Primary Bond Dealers private or publically owned institutions? That is not those that buy bonds on the secondary bond market, but the Primary Bond Dealers?
Tender counterparties are primarily private sector banks.
4. Could you please tell me what they use to buy our government bonds and if that medium of exchange existed before we pledged to pay it back with attached interest out of the future taxes of the nation or was it an electronic debt book entry, not anyone’s existing savings, but an electronic book entry that brings into circulation new money?
People purchasing government bonds must do so with New Zealand dollars. Settlement of the transaction between the purchaser and the Crown is by electronic cash transfer rather than physical cash. All else being equal, bond purchases result in a reduction in settlement cash balances of the banking system (either at commercial banks, the Reserve Bank or both) as cash is transferred to the Crown.
An explanation for how this cash may originally be created is included in the answer to question 5 below.5. Is it true that in excess of 90% of the money supply in circulation in New Zealand entered circulation as interest bearing debt owed to the banking network?
It is correct that most of the money supply in New Zealand has been created by the banking sector. This is done through the process of financial intermediation. Commercial banks, and other financial institutions, take deposits from members of the public and firms who wish to hold cash in the form of bank deposits. They then lend to individuals and firms who want to borrow — in the form of mortgages or business loans. This process serves to channel funds between savers and borrowers. It also shifts the risk of lending from individual savers to the banks, thereby reducing the risk of lending.
This process of intermediation involves the commercial banks lending a greater value of funds than the cash they reserve to meet expected deposit withdrawals. This is done because at any one time only a fraction of depositors will want to withdraw their funds. Banks therefore need to keep only a fraction of their deposits in reserve in order to meet those demands. Because the banks lend more than the total amount of cash held in reserve in the system, credit is created – thus increasing the money supply.
The exact proportion depends on the definition of the money supply. Using the most common definition of the money supply as M2 (i.e. currency held by the public + balances in cheque accounts + all other business or personal deposits that are available on demand), the October 2009 data show that the part not accounted for by currency held by the public is 95%.
Data on money aggregates can be found on the RBNZ website at: http://www.rbnz.govt. nzlstatistics/monfin/cl /data.html.6. Prime Minister Key, could you please describe your activities as a member of the Advisory Board of the Foreign Exchange Committee of the US Federal Reserve between 1999-2001?
I refer you to the reply from the Office of the Prime Minister.
7. Could all please advise me if the US Federal Reserve and the Bank of England are privately owned institutions that sit within their respective governments or publicly owned institutions within their governments?
I refer you to the following pages on the websites of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England respectively for this information:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/Qf/pf. htm http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/leciisIation/leciis.htm8. Could you please explain to me the role and relationship of the American Financial institution — Northern Trust — in regard to it being appointed custodian of our own NZ Debt Management Office?
The New Zealand Debt Management Office (NZDMO) has appointed Northern Trust as global custodian for NZDMO fixed income assets The appointment foflowed a competitive tender exercise which was completed in 2008. Custodian duties provided by Northern Trust for the NZDMO are standard for financial institutions and include: the provision of trade settlement services; safekeeping of assets; and other administrative functions.
9. Could you please tell me if in New Zealand, a “new” mortgage at issuance, before it becomes tradable, is loaned to a borrower by a registered bank, is that mortgage created as a debt book entry account, not anyone’s existing savings, but an electronic debt book entry creating “new money”?
The creation of a new residential mortgage will generally result in new money (bank deposits) being created. The bank grants a new loan to a purchaser, who uses the cash to buy property from a vendor. The vendor then may spend or save the proceeds boosting deposits in the financial system.
You also ask for a list of the names of the officials who contributed to this reply. I am withholding these names in full under s.9(2)(g)(i) of the Official Information Act — to maintain the effective conduct of public affairs through the free and frank expression of opinions.
You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to review my decision.
This fully covers the information you requested. I hope you find this information useful
Yours sincerely
Bill English
Minister of Financethen consider the banker mantra from the RBNZ reply to the same questions, especially funny is the statement that only the RBNZ can create new money!:
RESERVE BANK
OF NEW ZEALAND
21 December 2009
Mr lain Parker
372 Brookes Road RD21
STRATFORD 4391
Dear Mr Parker
Your Official Information Act request of 25 November, sent to a number of addressees by email, has fallen to the Reserve Bank to answer. Below we have quoted ealan of your questions, with our answer following.
In general, the questions are not clearly stated making it difficult to answer them However, we have attempted to provide information that we think addresses the subject matter of the queries.I – Could you please tell me what a Government Bond is and what role it plays in our economy?
A government bond is a government issued debt security, ie a form of borrowing money by the government. Issuing government bonds enables the Government to borrow money for fiscal purposes.
2- Could you please tell me who in the world of high finance, as Primary Bond Dealers, has the right to buy or monetise governments debt bonds before they decide if they do or dont on sell them on the secondary bond market?
This question is not clear and is unable to be answered. In particular it is not known what you mean by Primary Bond Dealers. However, the issuance of government debt is governed by the Public Finance Act 1989 and in almost all cases is the ultimate responsibility of the Minister of Finance.
3-Are the Primary Bond Dealers private or public owned institutions? That is not those that buy bonds on the secondary bond market, but the Primary Bond Dealers.
This question is not understood and therefore not able to be answered. However, both privately owned and government owned entities buy government bonds on the primary market.
4- Could you please tell me what they use to buy our government bonds and if that medium of exchange existed before we pledged to pay it back with attached interest out of the future taxes of the nation or was it an electronic debt book entry, not anyones existing savings, but an electronic debt book entry that brings into circulation new money?
This question is not understood and therefore not able to be answered. However, as a bond is a borrowing transaction by the Government it would only issue a bond to someone who advanced to it the price of the bond.
5- Is it true that in excess of 90% of the money supply in circulation in New Zealand entered circulation as interest bearing debt owed to the banking network?
As the meaning of the question is not understood, we are unable to confirm that statement.
6- Prime Minister Key, could you please describe your activities as a member of the Advisory Board of the Foreign Exchange Committee of the US Federal Reserve between 1999-2001 ?
The-Reserve Bank-Is unable-to artswer this question
7- Could all please advise me if the US Federal Reserve and the Bank of England are privately owned institutions that sit within their respective governments or publicly owned institutions within their governments?
The Bank of England was nationalised by the UK government in 1946, meaning it is publicly owned.
The Federal Reserve banks in the US are essentially public organisations but private banks also own stock in them.8- Could you please explain for me the role and relationship of the American financial institution – Northern Trust – in regard to it being appointed custodian of our own NZ Debt Management Office?
Northern Trust is responsible for the provision of core custody and related services to NZDMO’s book of Fixed Income assets. This means Northern Trust is holding the securities on the NZDMO’s behalf.
9- Could you please tell me if, in New Zealand, a “new” mortgage at issuance, before it becomes tradable, is loaned to a borrower by a registered bank, is that mortgage created as a debt book entry account, not anyones existing savings, but an electronic debt book entry creating “new” money?
We are not entirely sure of the meaning of this question. However, it is worth noting that only the Reserve Bank has the ability to create “new money”.
This question is unclear and needs to be rephrased if it is to be answered.
Yours sincerelypp Mike Hannah
Head of Communications
Ref #3855680 v1.0
2 The Terrace, Wellington 6011
PO Box 2498 Wellington 6140, New Zealand Telephone +64 4 472 2029 Fax +64 4 473 8554The RBNZ have since refused to disclose who wrote the reply and John Key has refused to give insight into his role as advisor to the New York branch of US Fed 1999-2001.
This part of the reply from Bill English is of particular interest, as it is wrong:
It is correct that most of the money supply in New Zealand has been created by the banking sector. This is done through the process of financial intermediation. Commercial banks, and other financial institutions, take deposits from members of the public and firms who wish to hold cash in the form of bank deposits. They then lend to individuals and firms who want to borrow — in the form of mortgages or business loans. This process serves to channel funds between savers and borrowers. It also shifts the risk of lending from individual savers to the banks, thereby reducing the risk of lending.
In fact, banks first create currency out of thin air when a loan is taken out.
Later, deposits are made, which then cover the reserve requirement, if there is one.
I have listed a number of paradigms here
The Many Ways of Looking at the way Banking Works - Banking Paradigms by Steve Netwriter
http://www.neuralnetwriter.cylo42.com/node/206
